Negative Times A Negative
June 19th, 2013 by Dan Meyer
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In my workshop this week in Monterey, CA, a math teacher named Paul came up and said, "I ask everybody the same question: what is a numeric illustration of the fact that a negative number multiplied by a negative number is a positive number?"
I put his question out to Twitter and more than one hundred responses came in over the next few hours. You can click through to my tweet and see many of them. I've pulled out a sample here:
@ddmeyer I think of it as subtracting debt repeatedly, or reducing the money loss until you get a gain.
— Chris Adams (@MrAdamsProblems) June 17, 2013
@ddmeyer In a movie scene. If a car in the scene is moving backwards, playing the scene in reverse cause the car to go forward
— Chris Adams (@MrAdamsProblems) June 17, 2013
@ddmeyer Would this example work (See attached picture of an example)? Just a thought. pic.twitter.com/xZSLSkguaG
— Gary A. Petko (@GaryPetko) June 17, 2013
@ddmeyer If a negative charge is moved towards a negative electric potential, the electric potential energy increases positively by Vq
— Doug Smith (@bcphysics) June 17, 2013
@dcox21 @ddmeyer My student: "when you love love it's love, if you hate love it's hate but if you hate hate its love." #realworldexample
— Eric Benzel (@mrbenzel) June 17, 2013
@ddmeyer taking away a penalty in football moves the team forward.
— Jeffery Baugus (@baugusj) June 18, 2013
I appreciated a lot of these illustrations (as did Paul, though he pointed out that many of them aren't numeric) but my heart belongs to Bryan Meyer's response:
@PaiMath @ddmeyer Somewhat. From what I know neg #s were invented for debt. Once they exist, we might ask what happens when we multiply?
— Bryan Meyer (@doingmath) June 17, 2013
See, there are these things called negative numbers. Our students understand that they're useful descriptions. They understand how to add and subtract them. (Perhaps with a metaphor like going into more or less debt.)
We know how to add and subtract positive numbers, sure, but we can also multiply and divide them. Is the same true of negative numbers? What would multiplying and dividing negative numbers look like? What are your theories?
In this post we have two very different organizing principles for a math class:
- Students will commit to difficult math work if we can cite some job that uses that math or some moment where it occurs in the world outside the math classroom.
- Students will commit to difficult math work if we can put our students in a position to experience what's curious and perplexing about it.
There's some overlap, sure, but not a lot. Over a year, those organizing principles create very different classrooms. Over a career, those organizing principles create very different teachers. Let's talk about those differences in the comments.
Always Related:
- Samuel Otten's Cornered by the Real World.




My name is Dan Meyer and I like to teach.